First Time using Vault

gpakes · Post by **gpakes** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:59 am

Hi,

I am currently trialling Vault and am curious about the following.

I have a Visual Studio 2005 solution with 3 projects - the first two projects are simply class librarys but the third is an extremely large website (mixture of classic ASP and ASP.NET pages).

Currently we use Frontpage server extensions to develop directly on the development server. This uses the very limited inbuilt frontpage server extensions source control. I am looking into implementing Vault to really bring these processes up to a decent standard.

I have added my solution to Vault and it seems to work ok. The problem that I am having that a right click on either the Solution or the Web SITE project takes a couple of minutes (hanging VS in the meantime). Is there anything i can do about this? It really is a bit of a showstopper.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

Greg

Beth · Post by **Beth** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:48 am

Can you open a Vault client, connect to a repository, go to Help - Technical Support, and post the client and server environment information here? I don't need the licensing portion at the bottom, just the complete environment.

Does a client right on the Vault server yield the same slowness? It won't take up a license to load one there for testing this out.

Do you have other projects or websites, and do they show the same slowness when you right click?

gpakes · Post by **gpakes** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:58 am

Hi Beth,

Please find the information below.

Client Information
Vault Client Version: 4.0.0.15759
.Net Framework Version: 2.0.50727.1433
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Service Pack: 2.0
OS Version: 5.1.2600
Total Physical Memory: 2 GB
Time Zone: (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time : Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London

Server Information
Vault Server Version: 4.0.0.15759
.Net Framework Version: 2.0.50727.1433
Operating System: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Server 2003, Standard Edition
Service Pack: 2.0
OS Version: 5.2.3790
Timezone: (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time : Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London
SQL Version: Microsoft SQL Server 2005 - 9.00.3054.00 (Intel X86)
Mar 23 2007 16:28:52
Copyright (c) 1988-2005 Microsoft Corporation
Standard Edition on Windows NT 5.2 (Build 3790: Service Pack 2)

Within the Vault Client - the right click is instant.

When Vault Client with VS 2005 is NOT installed -
Right click on the root is instant.

When Vault VS 2005 client IS installed -
Right click on small projects and files is instant.
Right Click on the web site in question (36000 files) takes a 2 mins.

I think it's simply due to the sheer volume of files.

thanks for your help,

Greg

Beth · Post by **Beth** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:03 am

Do you have another similar type of website with fewer files you can try out and see how the speed compares?

gpakes · Post by **gpakes** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:06 am

Beth,

I have built a couple of small websites and yes it is much quicker.

Within my slow website - I can right click on the sub folders and there is a definite relationship between the size of data within the folder and the time taken to load the context menu.

Greg

Beth · Post by **Beth** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 9:47 am

I looked back and it appears that on the 4.0 there was an issue with speed that has been fixed. Upgrading to 4.0.6 on both the client and the server should help here.

You can also try out the 4.1 beta if you wish and that should be faster as well.
You can run only the client beta (leaving the server at 4.0.6) if that makes you nervous.

gpakes · Post by **gpakes** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:32 am

My new version:

Client Information
Vault Client Version: 4.1.0.16096
.Net Framework Version: 2.0.50727.1433
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Service Pack: 2.0
OS Version: 5.1.2600
Total Physical Memory: 2 GB
Time Zone: (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time : Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London

This is still no quicker.

Beth · Post by **Beth** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:37 am

You upgraded the server too, correct? The server needs to be on at least 4.0.6.

gpakes · Post by **gpakes** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 11:22 am

This is my version:

Client Information
Vault Client Version: 4.1.0.16096
.Net Framework Version: 2.0.50727.1433
Operating System: Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Service Pack: 2.0
OS Version: 5.1.2600
Total Physical Memory: 2 GB
Time Zone: (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time : Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London

Server Information
Vault Server Version: 4.1.0.16096
.Net Framework Version: 2.0.50727.1433
Operating System: Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Server 2003, Standard Edition
Service Pack: 2.0
OS Version: 5.2.3790
Timezone: (GMT) Greenwich Mean Time : Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London
SQL Version: Microsoft SQL Server 2005 - 9.00.3054.00 (Intel X86)
Mar 23 2007 16:28:52
Copyright (c) 1988-2005 Microsoft Corporation
Standard Edition on Windows NT 5.2 (Build 3790: Service Pack 2)

It is still slow.

ian_sg · Post by **ian_sg** » Wed Jan 30, 2008 9:01 am

For web SITE (not web application) projects on a remote server with lots of files, the VSIP/2005/2008 client still has some performance issues.

The best alternative for users in this situation is to use the MSSCCI/2003-compatible client. (Despite the name, it works well in VS 2005 and 2008. The name will change before 4.1 final ships.)